Damn Rob, that has to be a challenge, but thanks for the reply. I sort of feel like an idiot for complaining sometimes. We'v tried some dildos etc, but they all wind up irritating her skin..All in all the thing that makes me MOST fulfilled is seeing her catch fire. If she's really getting hot, I guess I will have to admit, I wouldnt care so much which part of me is making that happen to her, but my ability to make her orgasm at all seems to be falling off, and I just turn all that into my fault....oddly enough I wish she would be a more selfish lover, over the years she's shifted more towards making me happy, which is certainly appreciated, but I wish we could prioritize her pleasure.......I admire your ability to do the other men thing in a way that can be enjoyable for both of you. I just dont know if I could. I wish we could try again, my wife and I, that is another fantasy that I sometimes linger too long on. But again, knowing myself, is that a selfless thought meant to fulfill some desire of hers (and a way for me to get off) or is it just my self destructiveness, my tendency to self nullify?
If I take a look at the aftermath of the times we've tried other men, the first 2 times she was upset so that flavored my reaction, and the last time she almost left me, so that sort of took all the fun out of it for me.