Yes, exactly. Both are wrong. In my example I was trying think of something that was as important to a wife as sex is to a husband. BTW. I have a friend who refused her husband for abouit 25 years. She has since changed her ways. Her blog can be found at http://passionwithinmarriage.blogspot.com/ and I highly recommend it. Mark
I am a new member here and this is the 1st thread that I have read in it's entirety. For those who think that it is OK for Joes wife to refuse to have sex with him, what would you think of Joe if he didn't feel like talking or listening to his wife for months, or even years at a time. No talk, no listening. Not one word, just becuase he doesn't feel like it anymore. Would that be ok? Mark. (A formally refused husband)