Members Kinky Twinkie Posted July 23, 2009 Members Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Joe Legal vs. Joe IllegalHere is an example of why hiring illegal aliens is not economicallyproductive for the State of California...You have 2 families..."Joe Legal" and "Joe Illegal". Both families have 2parents, 2 children and live in California. "Joe Legal" works in construction, has a Social Security Number, and makes$25.00 per hour with payroll taxes deducted..."Joe Illegal" also works inconstruction, has "NO" Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash"under the table". Joe Legal...$25.00 per hour x 40 hours $1000.00 per week , $52,000 per year Now take 30% away for state federal tax Joe Legal now has $31,231.00Joe Illegal...$15.00 per hour x 40 hours $600.00 per week, $31,200.00 per year Joe Illegal pays no taxes...Joe Illegal now has $31,200.00 Joe Legal pays Medical and Dental Insurance with limited coverage $1000.00 per month $12,000.00 per year Joe Legal now has $19,231.00 Joe Illegal has full Medical and Dental coverage through the state and localclinics at a cost of $0.00 per year Joe Illegal still has $31,200.00 Joe Legal makes too much money is not eligible for Food Stamps or welfare Joe Legal pays for food $1,000.00 per month $12,000.00 per year Joe Legal now has $ 7,231.00 Joe Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for Food Stamps andWelfare Joe Illegal still has $31,200.00 Joe Legal pays rent of$1,000.00 per month $12,000.00 per year Joe Legal is now in the hole minus (-) $4,769.00 Joe Illegal receives a $500 per month Federal rent subsidy Joe Illegal pays rent $500. 00 per month $6,000.00 per year Joe Illegal still has $25,200.00 Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job afterwork. Joe Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family. Joe Legal's and Joe Illegal's children both attend the same school. JoeLegal pays for his children's lunches while Joe Illegal's children get agovernment sponsored lunch. Joe Illegal's children have a n after school ESL program. Joe Legal'schildren go home. Joe Legal and Joe Illegal both enjoy the same Police and Fire Services, butJoe Legal paid for them and Joe Illegal did not pay.THIS IS NOT A PARTY ISSUE: IT'S A COMMON SENSE ISSUE.....Don't vote OR support any politician that supports illegal aliens... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shdowulf39 Posted July 23, 2009 Members Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 if they are caught and are found to be illegal deport them.if they are caught a second time sent them to jail(male or female) for a PERIOD OF 2 YEARS AND HAVE THEM WORK ON NEW ROAD CONSTRUCTION!!!no wages are paid for that period.they only get food and schelter.any baby who is born in this country to an illegal IS NOT and american citizen.DO NOT give them that right.it's time to put a stop to all this illegal nonscence and start closing our borders!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sunday Posted July 23, 2009 Members Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 History just seems to keep repeating itself over and over and over. You should read some of the American separatist propaganda from the 1700s or the communist propaganda from the 1930s to get some perspective on this kind of "information." It's almost word-for-word, era after era, year after year. The anti-communist hysteria of the early '50s is another good source of political scare tactics disguised as "information" but to its credit it's a little more subtle - aimed at a more educated audience I'd guess. Politics can be so amusing. I especially like it when they say their partisanship is not about politics. They sound so sincere. :D Joe Legal vs. Joe IllegalHere is an example of why hiring illegal aliens is not economicallyproductive for the State of California...You have 2 families..."Joe Legal" and "Joe Illegal". Both families have 2parents, 2 children and live in California. "Joe Legal" works in construction, has a Social Security Number, and makes$25.00 per hour with payroll taxes deducted..."Joe Illegal" also works inconstruction, has "NO" Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash"under the table". Joe Legal...$25.00 per hour x 40 hours $1000.00 per week , $52,000 per year Now take 30% away for state federal tax Joe Legal now has $31,231.00Joe Illegal...$15.00 per hour x 40 hours $600.00 per week, $31,200.00 per year Joe Illegal pays no taxes...Joe Illegal now has $31,200.00 Joe Legal pays Medical and Dental Insurance with limited coverage $1000.00 per month $12,000.00 per year Joe Legal now has $19,231.00 Joe Illegal has full Medical and Dental coverage through the state and localclinics at a cost of $0.00 per year Joe Illegal still has $31,200.00 Joe Legal makes too much money is not eligible for Food Stamps or welfare Joe Legal pays for food $1,000.00 per month $12,000.00 per year Joe Legal now has $ 7,231.00 Joe Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for Food Stamps andWelfare Joe Illegal still has $31,200.00 Joe Legal pays rent of$1,000.00 per month $12,000.00 per year Joe Legal is now in the hole minus (-) $4,769.00 Joe Illegal receives a $500 per month Federal rent subsidy Joe Illegal pays rent $500. 00 per month $6,000.00 per year Joe Illegal still has $25,200.00 Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job afterwork. Joe Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family. Joe Legal's and Joe Illegal's children both attend the same school. JoeLegal pays for his children's lunches while Joe Illegal's children get agovernment sponsored lunch. Joe Illegal's children have a n after school ESL program. Joe Legal'schildren go home. Joe Legal and Joe Illegal both enjoy the same Police and Fire Services, butJoe Legal paid for them and Joe Illegal did not pay.THIS IS NOT A PARTY ISSUE: IT'S A COMMON SENSE ISSUE.....Don't vote OR support any politician that supports illegal aliens... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 12GAUGE Posted August 5, 2009 Members Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Joe Legal vs. Joe IllegalHere is an example of why hiring illegal aliens is not economicallyproductive for the State of California...You have 2 families..."Joe Legal" and "Joe Illegal". Both families have 2parents, 2 children and live in California. "Joe Legal" works in construction, has a Social Security Number, and makes$25.00 per hour with payroll taxes deducted..."Joe Illegal" also works inconstruction, has "NO" Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash"under the table". Joe Legal...$25.00 per hour x 40 hours $1000.00 per week , $52,000 per year Now take 30% away for state federal tax Joe Legal now has $31,231.00Joe Illegal...$15.00 per hour x 40 hours $600.00 per week, $31,200.00 per year Joe Illegal pays no taxes...Joe Illegal now has $31,200.00 Joe Legal pays Medical and Dental Insurance with limited coverage $1000.00 per month $12,000.00 per year Joe Legal now has $19,231.00 Joe Illegal has full Medical and Dental coverage through the state and localclinics at a cost of $0.00 per year Joe Illegal still has $31,200.00 Joe Legal makes too much money is not eligible for Food Stamps or welfare Joe Legal pays for food $1,000.00 per month $12,000.00 per year Joe Legal now has $ 7,231.00 Joe Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for Food Stamps andWelfare Joe Illegal still has $31,200.00 Joe Legal pays rent of$1,000.00 per month $12,000.00 per year Joe Legal is now in the hole minus (-) $4,769.00 Joe Illegal receives a $500 per month Federal rent subsidy Joe Illegal pays rent $500. 00 per month $6,000.00 per year Joe Illegal still has $25,200.00 Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job afterwork. Joe Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family. Joe Legal's and Joe Illegal's children both attend the same school. JoeLegal pays for his children's lunches while Joe Illegal's children get agovernment sponsored lunch. Joe Illegal's children have a n after school ESL program. Joe Legal'schildren go home. Joe Legal and Joe Illegal both enjoy the same Police and Fire Services, butJoe Legal paid for them and Joe Illegal did not pay.THIS IS NOT A PARTY ISSUE: IT'S A COMMON SENSE ISSUE.....Don't vote OR support any politician that supports illegal aliens...When Joe Legal has had enuf I hope he runs down Joe Illegal with his truck. He would have used a gun 'cept where he lives guns are illegal mainly cuz of gangbangers shooting legal citizens. Perhaps Joe Legal will get REALLY PISSED OFF and steal a 10 yard dumptruck and wage his own campaign of urban renewal mowing down lowlife illegals willy nilly. Perhaps he will get REALLY LUCKY and mow down a few of the worthless politicos that are driving Kalifornia into a shithole........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shdowulf39 Posted August 5, 2009 Members Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 and who gets to pay for all the services that illegals are getting?if you work you do!!!!!it's called taxes.it's also time that we recind a law on the books.if an illegal had a baby in this country it is NOT an Amertican citizen!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kinky Twinkie Posted August 13, 2009 Author Members Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media/pdf/11...HCA09001xml.pdfHR3200Pg 170 Lines 1-3 Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes (Americans will pay).I think this latest example says it all all by itself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 12GAUGE Posted December 11, 2009 Members Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 if they are caught and are found to be illegal deport them.if they are caught a second time sent them to jail(male or female) for a PERIOD OF 2 YEARS AND HAVE THEM WORK ON NEW ROAD CONSTRUCTION!!!no wages are paid for that period.they only get food and schelter.any baby who is born in this country to an illegal IS NOT and american citizen.DO NOT give them that right.it's time to put a stop to all this illegal nonscence and start closing our borders!!!Just this week some poor lil ILLEGAL sued the US GOVT and WON around 45THOU. Claimed his civil rights were violated and excessive force was used on himduring his arrest.--------------------Since when does an ILLEGAL enjoy ANY CIVIL RIGHTS???If I was running this country here's what would happen to illegals:1) First time they are caught; cut off their middle finger on both hands and deport them.2) Second time they are caught; tattoo their foreheads with 'I hate neggers' and turn them loose in any big hood with a high concentration of Black folks.3) Third time they are caught. Push them out of a Chinook chopper one thousand feet up over the mex border.I bet America would see a substantial DECREASE in a certain classification of fuckheads sneaking into my country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 12GAUGE Posted December 11, 2009 Members Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Just this week some poor lil ILLEGAL sued the US GOVT and WON around 45THOU. Claimed his civil rights were violated and excessive force was used on himduring his arrest.--------------------Since when does an ILLEGAL enjoy ANY CIVIL RIGHTS???If I was running this country here's what would happen to illegals:1) First time they are caught; cut off their middle finger on both hands and deport them.2) Second time they are caught; tattoo their foreheads with 'I hate neggers' and turn them loose in any big hood with a high concentration of Black folks.3) Third time they are caught. Push them out of a Chinook chopper one thousand feet up over the mex border.I bet America would see a substantial DECREASE in a certain classification of fuckheads sneaking into my country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 12GAUGE Posted December 11, 2009 Members Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Oops. Double post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie CaliShy Posted January 16, 2010 Newbie Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Joe Illegal has full Medical and Dental coverage through the state and localclinics at a cost of $0.00 per yearJoe Illegal still has $31,200.00Joe Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for Food Stamps andWelfareJoe Illegal still has $31,200.00FYI UNDOCUMENTED people not eligible for full Medical and Dental coverage through the state and local clinics. They have restricted benefits and can only receive Emergency services and Women can also receive pregnancy services.UNDOCUMENTED people are also not eligible for Welfare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thurisas Posted January 17, 2010 Members Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Thank you.Also, I think you'll find in my state that its the professionally unemployed(people who know the ins and outs of the system and work to defraud it) who are the real sap to the system, not immigrants, illegal or otherwise. Lets clamp down on the fraud first, hmm?Randy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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